இறைவன் ஏன் ஈசாக்கை பலிகொடுக்கும் படி கட்டளையிட்டார் என்பதை நாம் நிச்சயம் சிந்தித்து பார்க்கவேண்டும்.சாதாரணமாக வெறும் கீழ்படிதல் மட்டுமே இதற்கு காரணம் அல்ல.அதற்கும் மேல் இதில் மிகப்பெரிய ஒரு உண்மை மறைந்துள்ளது என்பதை நாம் அறியவேண்டும் .ஈசாக்குக்கு பதிலாக ஒரு ஆட்டை முன்பே ஆயத்தம் செய்த இறைவன் முழு மனுகுலத்துக்காகவும் தன்னுடைய குமாரனை பலியாக ஆயத்தப்படுத்தியுள்ளார்.இப்படிப்பட்ட உன்னதமான காரியங்களை உணர்த்தவே இப்படிப்பட்ட விசயங்களை உதாரணப்படுத்துகிறார்.
Dear Mr venkatesh,
In your statement in the video you have stated , GOD has blessed Abraham with ISSAC at his birth and also promised that his covenant will be through him.( meaning Jesus will come in his progeny. )
Later , you said , GOD tested Abraham by making him, willing to sacrifice his own son ISSAC.
If the above statements what you have said are true. Then from the First Blesssing iteslf it can be inferred that ISSAC will live till his seed enters his mate. Is it not? Then only , his progeny will continue till Jesus, Is it not? In which case, Abraham will know for sure, the test is a fake and GOD to keep his promise will not allow him to sacrifice ISSAC, in which case, He( Abrahman) would have couragelouly taken ISSAC for Sacrifice. Which will nullify this GREAT Sacrifice. How can you justify the above contracdiction. Please clarify?
How does this question seem to be logic to you? Taking some issues from the Holy Bible and inserting
your own reasoning in to it and then raising questions! – is that your standard style?
Abraham took his son to sacrifice not because he knew that Isaac will not die but he knew that he had
to obey his God at any cost because his God is the almighty God. That is why he did not hesitate to bind
and lay his son on the altar and take his knife to slay his son. And that is why God himself (through His
angel) had to hurry up to stop Abraham from slaying his son. And we understand that Abraham’s act of
obedience cannot be nullified because God himself testifies Abraham’s obedience in this matter.
Do you think that Almighty God did not or could not comprehend Abraham’s mind while he was
preparing his son to sacrifice? When Almighty God himself testifies Abraham’s obedience, who are we
to doubt it?
Dear Mr. Ventakesh,
In the begining of your talk , you said, GOD blessed Abrahman and gave ISSAC to him and gave glad tiding at his birth that his covenent will be through ISSAC. Then you said , Abraham took issac for sacrifice when ISSAC was a boy. Is this non contracdicting?
In the first blessing itself , it can be inferred that ISSAC will atleast live up to his seed entering a female. Then only his progeny would continue to enabel JESUS to come through his progeny. In other words, GOD tells abraham , that this boy ISSAC won’t die till marriage. Then why not Abraham not take ISSAC for Sacrifice. ALready he GOD has assured, He will live. So how can you justify the above contradiction.please explain.
regards
Ali
DEAR BRO
How does this question seem to be logic to you? Taking some issues from the Holy Bible and inserting
your own reasoning in to it and then raising questions! – is that your standard style?
Abraham took his son to sacrifice not because he knew that Isaac will not die but he knew that he had
to obey his God at any cost because his God is the almighty God. That is why he did not hesitate to bind
and lay his son on the altar and take his knife to slay his son. And that is why God himself (through His
angel) had to hurry up to stop Abraham from slaying his son. And we understand that Abraham’s act of
obedience cannot be nullified because God himself testifies Abraham’s obedience in this matter.
Do you think that Almighty God did not or could not comprehend Abraham’s mind while he was
preparing his son to sacrifice? When Almighty God himself testifies Abraham’s obedience, who are we
to doubt it?
அன்பான கடவுள் குழந்தைகளை கொலை செய்யச் சொல்லி உத்தரவு போட்டது ஏன்? :
உன் குழந்தைகளைப் பிடித்து, கல்லின்மேல் மோதியடிக்கிறவன் பாக்கியவான்.
சங்கீதம் 137 : 9
உங்கள் கேள்வியே உங்கள் அறியாமையை காட்டுகிறது.சங்கீதம் 137 பாபிலோனுக்கு சிறைபிடித்து கொண்டுபோகப்பட்டவர்கள் பாடுகிற பாடலாகும்.
சங்கீதம் 137:1 பாபிலோனின் ஆறுகளருகே அமர்ந்து நாங்கள் சீயோனை நினைத்து அழுதோம்.
2 அங்கிருந்த அலரிச் செடிகள் மீது எங்கள் யாழ்களை மாட்டி வைத்தோம்.
3 ஏனெனில் அங்கு எங்களைச் சிறையாக்கினோர் எங்களைப் பாடும்படி கேட்டனர்; எங்களைக் கடத்திச் சென்றோர் எங்களை மகிழ்ச்சிப்பா இசைக்குமாறு கேட்டனர். ‘சீயோனின் பாடல்களை எங்களுக்குப் பாடிக்காட்டுங்கள்’ என்றனர்.
4 ஆண்டவருக்கு உரித்தாக்கும் பாடலை அன்னிய நாட்டில் எங்ஙனம்; பாடுவோம்?
5 எருசலேமே! நான் உன்னை மறந்தால் என் வலக்கை சூம்பிப்போவதாக!
6 உன்னை நான் நினையாவிடில் எனது மகிழ்ச்சியின் மகுடமாக நான் எருசலேமைக் கருதாவிடில் என் நா மேல்வாயோடு ஒட்டிக்கொள்வதாக!
7 ஆண்டவரே! ஏதோமின் புதல்வருக்கு எதிராக எருசலேம் வீழ்ந்த நாளை நினைத்துக் கொள்ளும்! ‘அதை இடியுங்கள்; அடியோடு இடித்துக் தள்ளுங்கள்’ என்று அவர்கள் எவ்வாறெல்லாம் சொன்னார்கள்!
8 பாழாக்கும் நகர் பாபிலோனே! நீ எங்களுக்குச் செய்தவற்றை உனக்கே திருப்பிச் செய்வோர் பேறுபெற்றோர்!
9 உன் குழந்தைகளைப் பிடித்து பாறையின்மேல் மோதி அடிப்போர் பேறுபெற்றோர்!///
இந்த சங்கீதத்தில் நன்றாக கவனித்தால் உங்களுக்கு புரியும். பாபிலோனுக்கு அடிமைகளாக கொண்டுபோகப்பட்ட இஸ்ரவேலருடைய பாட்டாகும் இது.குழந்தைகளை பிடித்து மோதியடிக்க அவர்கள் விரும்புவதற்கு முன் அவர்களின் பிள்ளைகள் அப்படிப்பட்ட வன்கொடுமைகளுக்கு ஆளாகியுள்ளனர் என்கின்ற குறிப்பு அந்த சங்கீதத்தில் இருந்தே கிடைக்கிறது.ஆனால் அதை பார்க்காமல் எங்கள் வேதாகமத்தை இழிவு படுத்தும் நோக்கோடு மட்டுமே கடவுள் இப்படி கட்டளை இட்டார் என்று பொய்யாய் உங்களுக்கு உங்கள் அறிஞர்கள் கற்றுகொடுத்து உள்ளனர்.இந்த முழு சங்கீதத்தையும் உங்களுக்கு யாரும் காட்டியிருக்க மாட்டார்கள்.அவர்கள் சொன்னதை உண்மை என்று நம்பி இங்கு வந்து வாந்திப்பண்ணுகிறீர்கள்.
Sakothare ariyamai enru soli soli neengalum ariyamaiai velipaduthukinreerkal sangeetham 137 nanraka vasiungal neengale pathilum kuduthu viteerkal kulanthaikalai kallin meethu mothi adikinravan paakiyavaan enru sollum vasanam merpadi avar kooriyathu enna aandavaruku urithaana paadal ithu enru solli vitu anniya desathil epdi paaduvom enru sollia pirake antha varikal varukirathu aaha aandavar kiripittu kooriya paadalahum pothu athai paadal enru otthukolkinreerkal nalla vishayam kulanthaikalai kallin meethu mothi adikinravan paakiyavaan enra kattalai varumpothu ithai kartthar koori ulaar enru terikirathu makkaluku kudukum paadal pothanai ithudaana? Ada ipdi koori irunthaalum parava illaiye kulanthaikalai paaraien meethu mothi adikinravan paakiyavanaka mudiyathu enru koori irunthaal uthu satthiya vasanam enru nampa vitaalum nalla karuthu enru ninaipaarkal anaal ingu atharku idamillaiye neengal itharku thakka pathilai kudukka vendum enraal kartthar uvamaiaka pesinaar enraal mudinthadu prachanai ‘ onrai kuripidukirean daawid raja kalathil irai vasanangalai kavithaiaka paadithaan solvaarkal athai paadalaka makkalukku solvaarkal marukka mudiuma?
WHy you are not publishing my query.
Ali
Dear Mr. Ventakesh,
Thanks for Publishing my comment. Really I appreciate . Now i have one more query,In the Bible, we are reading that When Abraham took ISSAC for Sacrifice, The Boy ( ISSAC) asks him, Where is the Goat for Sacrifice? Abrahmam answers him saying “My Son, GOD will provide it”
At this point, their arises two Queries, S.No.1–Did Abrahman Knows at this point that “GOD is going to provide a goat for Sacrifice? If yes , then the following inference can be made, ” ABrahman’s Sacrifice is a drama, since he knows for sure, GOD is going to proivde the Sacrifice Goat, which will nullify the concept of GREAT SACRIFICE ! on the contrary , if the Answer to the Question in “No” , then it can be inferred that “ABraham is lying to his son, while going for this Great Sacrifice!, which will render him unfit as a role model for whole humanity. How can you sort out the above contradictions?
regards
Ali
Dear Mr. Ventakesh,
Thanks for Publishing my comment. Really I appreciate . Now i have one more query,In the Bible, we are reading that When Abraham took ISSAC for Sacrifice, The Boy ( ISSAC) asks him, Where is the Goat for Sacrifice? Abrahmam answers him saying “My Son, GOD will provide it”
At this point, their arises two Queries, S.No.1–Did Abrahman Knows at this point that “GOD is going to provide a goat for Sacrifice? If yes , then the following inference can be made, ” ABrahman’s Sacrifice is a drama, since he knows for sure, GOD is going to proivde the Sacrifice Goat, which will nullify the concept of GREAT SACRIFICE ! on the contrary , if the Answer to the Question in “No” implying, if Abraham Knews that the Boy(ISSAC) is only going to be sacrificed , then it can be inferred that “ABraham is lying to his son, while going for this Great Sacrifice!, which will render him unfit as a role model for whole humanity. How can you sort out the above contradictions?
regards
Ali
Dear Mr. Ventakesh,
Thanks for Publishing my comment. Really I appreciate . Now i have one more query,In the Bible, we are reading that When Abraham took ISSAC for Sacrifice, The Boy ( ISSAC) asks him, Where is the Goat for Sacrifice? Abrahmam answers him saying “My Son, GOD will provide it”
At this point, their arises two Queries, S.No.1–Did Abrahman Knows at this point that “GOD is going to provide a goat for Sacrifice? If yes , then the following inference can be made, ” ABrahman’s Sacrifice is a drama, since he knows for sure, GOD is going to proivde the Sacrifice Goat, which will nullify the concept of GREAT SACRIFICE ! on the contrary , if the Answer to the Question in “No” implying, if Abraham Knews that the Boy(ISSAC) is only going to be sacrificed , then it can be inferred that “ABraham is lying to his son, while going for this Great Sacrifice!, which will render him unfit as a role model for whole humanity. How can you sort out the above contradictions?
regards
Ali
Dear Mr. Ventakesh,
Thanks for Publishing my comment. Really I appreciate . Now i have one more query,In the Bible, we are reading that When Abraham took ISSAC for Sacrifice, The Boy ( ISSAC) asks him, Where is the Goat for Sacrifice? Abrahmam answers him saying “My Son, GOD will provide it”
At this point, their arises two Queries, S.No.1–Did Abrahman Knows at this point that “GOD is going to provide a goat for Sacrifice? If yes , then the following inference can be made, ” ABrahman’s Sacrifice is a drama, since he knows for sure, GOD is going to proivde the Sacrifice Goat, which will nullify the concept of GREAT SACRIFICE ! on the contrary , if the Answer to the Question in “No” implying, if Abraham Knews that the Boy(ISSAC) is only going to be sacrificed , then it can be inferred that “ABraham is lying to his son, while going for this Great Sacrifice!, which will render him unfit as a role model for whole humanity. How can you sort out the above contradictions?
regards
Ali
Dear Mr. Ventakesh,
Thanks for Publishing my comment. Really I appreciate . Now i have one more query,In the Bible, we are reading that When Abraham took ISSAC for Sacrifice, The Boy ( ISSAC) asks him, Where is the Goat for Sacrifice? Abrahmam answers him saying “My Son, GOD will provide it”
At this point, their arises two Queries, S.No.1–Did Abrahman Knows at this point that “GOD is going to provide a goat for Sacrifice? If yes , then the following inference can be made, ” ABrahman’s Sacrifice is a drama, since he knows for sure, GOD is going to proivde the Sacrifice Goat, which will nullify the concept of GREAT SACRIFICE ! on the contrary , if the Answer to the Question in “No” implying, if Abraham Knews that the Boy(ISSAC) is only going to be sacrificed , then it can be inferred that “ABraham is lying to his son, while going for this Great Sacrifice!, which will render him unfit as a role model for whole humanity. How can you sort out the above contradictions?
regards
Ali
Dear Venkatesh,
you have published my second comment . Kindly provide an answer to it. i am eagerly waiting for an answer.
அன்புள்ள நண்பருக்கு உமக்கு தமிழ் நன்றாக தெரியும் என்று நினைக்கிறேன்.உம்முடைய வாதத்தை தமிழிலேயே வைத்தால் பதில் கொடுப்பதற்கு மிகவும் வசதியாக இருக்கும்.ஆங்கிலத்தில்தான் பதில் வேண்டும் என்றால் சிறிது காலதாமதம் ஏற்படும் என்பதை தெரிவித்துக்கொள்ளுகிறேன்
ok. Mr. venkatesh. take your time. but kindly provide the answer in English only. i will be waiting patiently
Dear Bro. Ali
I am one of the visitor of this website, and I seen your two Queries about the incident of Abraham’s life. Bro. let me take this opportunity to answer your questions.
Question.No.1–Did Abrahman Knows at this point that “GOD is going to provide a goat for Sacrifice?
Answer : – “NO”
Question.No.2- Question in “No” implying, if Abraham Knews that the Boy(ISSAC) is only going to be sacrificed , then it can be inferred that “Abraham is lying to his son, while going for this Great Sacrifice!, which will render him unfit as a role model for whole humanity. How can you sort out the above contradictions?
Answer : – Here one thing you need to understand dear. What is that?…Abraham did not say lie. And if you read carefully, (“And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? “). “LAMB” the word came from Isaac mouth only, not from Abraham, and the second thing is…When Issac completed his question, Immediately Abraham answer with the same word “LAMB”.(“And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering:”) understand.
Did Isaac asked his father that “where is burnt offering” or what? NO,
if Isaac would have ask “where is burnt offering” my father, and Abraham might be say “God will provide”.
But Isaac asked “where is the lamb for a burnt offering” …that’s why Abraham said… My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering:”
And read this (“And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.”)
Here the main thing is there was a “RAM” not “LAMB”
Let me explain about your misunderstanding.
As you said if the incident is “Drama or Story” they might be use the same word (Lamb) till the story complete.
And you said “Abraham is lying to his son”. Llet me tell you, God said this things to only Abraham to do. So before he finish what God wants to do, he don’t want to focuses any other unwanted things. That why when his sons was asking question he said only “God will provide himself a lamb” here listen very carefully, “God will provide” this is Abraham’s word “lamb” questioned by Isaac. Also Abraham didn’t use “RAM”
“God will provide himself a lamb” This is not a LIE
“God will provide himself a lamb” this answer came from Abraham’s
“WISE and WISDOM” which is given by the GOD (JESUS) one who loving you and me
Those who are humbling themselves before our Lord JESUS Christ, they will get Wise, Wisdom and other blessings.
Lastly:- (I am very sorry to say this exp. ) If the Doctor said to you because of some unknowing illness your own one is going to die and this date. What you will do dear? Will you inform to your own one whom you love so much?
May be You and me can tell lie in that satiations but God’s children’s never tell lie, they will answer wisely. Which was happen in Abrahams life.
Read the Holy Bible with fear of God and God will bless you if you humble yourself.